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 Post subject: Brifters
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:41 pm 
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Which model of br/ifter levers did Shimano first introduce that had both the brake & gear cables running along the bars (droops) and not across the gap between the hoods, 9 speed & canti brakes compatible BTW.


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 Post subject: Re: Brifters
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:58 pm 
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According to a google search
Until Shimano changed the design of their brake calipers and their brake levers’ cable pull ratio, every cable actuated road brake lever was compatible with every road brake caliper including cantilever brakes.
Shimano made this change when they went to their SLR-EV brake architecture. Rather than list out what Shimano group generations are made for SLR-EV, and which ones are for the traditional brakes, there is a very easy way to understand which levers work with each type of brake. If the shift cables go under the handlebar tape, the lever is made to work with SLR-EV brakes. If the shift cable is exposed coming out of the shifter, this lever is made for traditional brakes.


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 Post subject: Re: Brifters
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:44 am 
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It was with the 10 speed groups:
Dura Ace 7900
Ultegra 6700
105 5700

If I understand the question!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:50 am 
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What it is is my touring bike its fitted with droops and I'm struggling to get my Ortlieb bar bag fitted because because the cables are getting in the way.


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 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:56 am 
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All I can find is 10 speed. Unless you go for modern Sora?

Must be something else :?


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 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:49 pm 
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RobMac wrote:
What it is is my touring bike its fitted with droops and I'm struggling to get my Ortlieb bar bag fitted because because the cables are getting in the way.
V-brake noodles Or rollamajig.
Plugged straight into the cable port on the lever.

My wife's training bike has been like this 2 or 3 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Brifters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:51 am 
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I believe it was 10 speed as well, I think all the 8 and 9 speed brifters had the exposed cables.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:04 pm 
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Not all 10 speed. Durace 7800, Ultergra 6600 and 105 5600 didn't have gear cables internally routed along handlebars.


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 Post subject: Re: Brifters
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:25 pm 
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Agreed, it was 'washing lines' for all generations before 10 speed, with the change relatively recently (and well into the 10-speed era).


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 Post subject: Re: Brifters
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:49 am 
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:wink: I qualified my answer with the group numbers


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