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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:26 pm 
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I used to ride road bikes with drops, so I understand the multiple hand positions benefit and on my bike with bar ends, I often ride with my hands in a similar position to riding with drop bars with my hands on the brake hoods. However, I thought MTB frames generally had a longer top tube designed to be used with straight bars, so aren't the front of the drops or the brake hoods too far forward, if you see what I mean?


If every frame was the same and we all had the same proportion bodies (quiet you!) then what you say would work but some of us have longer arms or torsos etc. I find drops very comfy on my GT which has a 23" top tube


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xerxes wrote:
I used to ride road bikes with drops, so I understand the multiple hand positions benefit and on my bike with bar ends, I often ride with my hands in a similar position to riding with drop bars with my hands on the brake hoods. However, I thought MTB frames generally had a longer top tube designed to be used with straight bars, so aren't the front of the drops or the brake hoods too far forward, if you see what I mean?


My preception is (only my perception and only as good as the research I did when looking into drop bar MTB's. You may find other reasons).
The original idea behind drop bar MTB's:

Design a cockpit where the rider mainly uses the drop part of the handlebars (unlike a road bike setup where the hoods and the flats on the top of the bar get used more often).

the benefit being a more ergonomic placement of the wrists, as opposed to the horizontal placement of flat bars.

A more ergonomicaly correct position of the arms/joints to work as shock absorbers adjusting for the bumps from the trail (visualize you physique riding in the drops as opposed to a flat bar).

The use of the spiral shape and the longer length of the drop bar handlebars compared to flat bars to absorb the vibration of the trail.

It looks unique and cool, and Jackie Phelan always had a dirt drop setup.

All Hype... possibly (I don't think so).

I think a lot of MTB drop bar bikes are set up with the intent of using multiple hand positions like one would on a road bike. As opposed to setting things up to use the drops as the primary hand position. Thus missing the benefits of the founders initial plan.

the design of the vintage WTB bars (and the others) from the 80's makes it virtually impossible to ride on the hoods and leaves very little area to hold on to the flats up above. The design encourages you to be on the drops below.

Just some quickly put together thoughts and things I have read on the topic to stir the pot and continue the discussion on a topic I enjoy...

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See page 9...

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Why would you want too ride a MTB with your face on the stem, ALA roadie..

looks really stupid,..


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Well actually... if you adjust the stem and handlebar in the right way the bottom position of your hands should be on the same level as a flat handelbar with a low rise stem... Just as all mtb's in the 90's and most mtb's on this forum.
The top of the dropped handlebar should be on level or slightly above the saddle. So the dropped roadie position is something completely different.

The multiple hand positions are very comfortable and the flared ends give lot's of control. That said to me the bike rides best on nice flowing trails that are not to difficult/ technical... Real descents need modern rizer bars...

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I love drop bar MTBs

Gonna build me another.


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Ahh, what a WASTE of that peugeot.. discusting :evil:


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Personally ...just my opinion like.....they look horrid and should be ridden with lycra panties on....flat bars or low risers for mtbs please,if you want to be different just buy a road bike.


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8) or if your in a particularly stupid mood, a CX bike.

that looks bloody stupid too


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Ah well...

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