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 Post subject: Re: Mystery Klein
PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:20 pm 
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Just picked this one up locally. Naturally, I bought it under the impression that it was one of the elusive early Klein steel-framed prototypes in the uber rare Derelicte colourway ...

Now, I'm coming around to the idea that it may just be an interesting early UK (Euro?) mountain bike.

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Anyway - re-reading this thread, it struck me that we could do with jotting down a few more details to try and bottom out what many of these bikes are and how they fit into the timeline.

How about a few more specs? Here's a first stab at a list of details that help identification:

Manufacturer (if you're sure): ?
Tubeset (if you're sure): ?
Year: 1985?
Construction: Lugged Steel
Frame Number: P M 850 334
Seat post diameter: 27.0mm
Seat stay design: Concave not wrapped round; tubular canti bridge
Braze ons: Single front @ dropout; rear pumppeg; twin rear @ dropout (not original)
Lug style: Semi tapered with a detail
Chain stays: 17"; curved; kinked
Wheelbase: 44"
Dropouts: No name
Significant Components: 22mm bullmoose bars; Shimano deerhead group; wolber canyon rims; Madison saddle; high flange hubs

Album of details here:

http://img532.imageshack.us/g/derelicte010.jpg/

I really bought this for the hubs, bars and brakes, but the fact that it's got a 27.0mm seat post; is sub 30lb clobbered up and has nifty pumppeg braze on has got me all interested in what it could be. Anyone recognise the frame number configuration?

Unhappily some cruel miscreant got creative with a welder and bodged a repair on the rear dropouts. If it rides well or turns out to be by an interesting builder, I'll get it back to its former glory.

The solid rear tyre :shock: wrong way round brake levers, wolber rim and creative sticker work also give it a European flavour. Any ideas?


I think that is a Halford's Carerra looking at the decals on the top tube :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:06 pm 
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my british eagle k3 think its about 88/89? its running a full shimano 200 gs groupset anybody any info please :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:58 am 
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mrlee wrote:
my british eagle k3 think its about 88/89? its running a full shimano 200 gs groupset anybody any info please :wink:


sorry but falls outside the 'rools' of the thread - its got have the 3 piece forks to qualify.

Dems da rools.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:56 pm 
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I think that is a Halford's Carerra looking at the decals on the top tube Shocked



Yeah but if you look at the sticker on the down tube it's most def a Klein.

Eitherway - I've skipped it, so if your contacts stretch to the East Yorks chapter of the environmental services industry, it could be yours ..... :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:03 pm 
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doctor-bond wrote:
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I think that is a Halford's Carerra looking at the decals on the top tube Shocked



Yeah but if you look at the sticker on the down tube it's most def a Klein.

Eitherway - I've skipped it, so if your contacts stretch to the East Yorks chapter of the environmental services industry, it could be yours ..... :wink:


why didnt you punt it out here first?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:18 pm 
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doctor-bond wrote:
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I think that is a Halford's Carerra looking at the decals on the top tube Shocked



Yeah but if you look at the sticker on the down tube it's most def a Klein.

Eitherway - I've skipped it, so if your contacts stretch to the East Yorks chapter of the environmental services industry, it could be yours ..... :wink:


:evil: :shock: :roll: great, perfectly good bike - now landfill - sorry, that's a poor show and totally against my perception of the spirit of this site. Thought you were under the impression that it was an interesting early ATB? Regardless, certain parts of your bike are quite sought-after now too... stem, fluted post, large flange hubs etc. all quite rare!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:34 pm 
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Had to include Wired99's Claud Butler:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:46 pm 
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Dead Rats wrote:
doctor-bond wrote:
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I think that is a Halford's Carerra looking at the decals on the top tube Shocked



Yeah but if you look at the sticker on the down tube it's most def a Klein.

Eitherway - I've skipped it, so if your contacts stretch to the East Yorks chapter of the environmental services industry, it could be yours ..... :wink:


:evil: :shock: :roll: great, perfectly good bike - now landfill - sorry, that's a poor show and totally against my perception of the spirit of this site. Thought you were under the impression that it was an interesting early ATB? Regardless, certain parts of your bike are quite sought-after now too... stem, fluted post, large flange hubs etc. all quite rare!



Er, no: not a perfectly good bike (if it were, I would have happily given the frame away). It turned ot to be a horribly mutilated rusty brute unworthy of my or anyone else's time. But as you say - nice parts and fork that won't go to waste.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:50 pm 
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Great thread. Here's my Evans/Saracen Conquest.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:34 pm 
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perfect!

keep them coming.


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