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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 12:18 pm 
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I think they were built up with very short stems so the steering would be spot on.....remember the repack gang used to race simillar down down a twisty mountain.


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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:32 pm 
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Here are mine;

Red and Black is an 1987 Ozark and Red and White is 1988. I have a 1987 Avanti in the loft too.

In the interests of good karma the 1988 one is available free if anyone wants to collect it from me in Sussex. It's complete and 90% original - just needs cables and tyres. Sub-Deore (this was pre-Exage) group with XT lookalike thumbies, U-brake, biopace chainset. It needs a respray but isbasically sound. PM me if you're interested.


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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:18 am 
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Terry, can you pm me regarding the Ozark please, cannot seem to get PMs through to you? I have been looking for a 501 or 531 Raleigh frame for a while

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It pains me to remember binning one of these frames - a British Eagle branded 501 in Green. Same lug and cable stop details as the frames here.

That had a Unicrown fork though.

Would have made a lovely pub bike now!


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Check out this beauty!

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/markgell/3 ... 88909@N23/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/markgell/s ... 287172539/


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Wow! another hat into the fray...


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:36 pm 
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Just picked this one up locally. Naturally, I bought it under the impression that it was one of the elusive early Klein steel-framed prototypes in the uber rare Derelicte colourway ...

Now, I'm coming around to the idea that it may just be an interesting early UK (Euro?) mountain bike.

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Anyway - re-reading this thread, it struck me that we could do with jotting down a few more details to try and bottom out what many of these bikes are and how they fit into the timeline.

How about a few more specs? Here's a first stab at a list of details that help identification:

Manufacturer (if you're sure): ?
Tubeset (if you're sure): ?
Year: 1985?
Construction: Lugged Steel
Frame Number: P M 850 334
Seat post diameter: 27.0mm
Seat stay design: Concave not wrapped round; tubular canti bridge
Braze ons: Single front @ dropout; rear pumppeg; twin rear @ dropout (not original)
Lug style: Semi tapered with a detail
Chain stays: 17"; curved; kinked
Wheelbase: 44"
Dropouts: No name
Significant Components: 22mm bullmoose bars; Shimano deerhead group; wolber canyon rims; Madison saddle; high flange hubs

Album of details here:

http://img532.imageshack.us/g/derelicte010.jpg/

I really bought this for the hubs, bars and brakes, but the fact that it's got a 27.0mm seat post; is sub 30lb clobbered up and has nifty pumppeg braze on has got me all interested in what it could be. Anyone recognise the frame number configuration?

Unhappily some cruel miscreant got creative with a welder and bodged a repair on the rear dropouts. If it rides well or turns out to be by an interesting builder, I'll get it back to its former glory.

The solid rear tyre :shock: wrong way round brake levers, wolber rim and creative sticker work also give it a European flavour. Any ideas?


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DoctorBond.......

My Ridgeback looks very similar to yours...

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewto ... highlight=

But mine has Campagnolo dropouts on the frame and forks.

Same cable guides and dimples in rear stays.

My seatpost is 27.2 though and does not seem to have a serial No.

Interesting stuff.

Just cut my pump port off :twisted:


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:46 pm 
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That is very close: yours looks a finer specimen with the campy dropouts (that's a clue we need to add) and thinwall tubes: is it definitely a Ridgeback?

Where were Ridgeback's made back then?


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:55 pm 
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doctor-bond wrote:
That is very close: yours looks a finer specimen with the campy dropouts (that's a clue we need to add) and thinwall tubes: is it definitely a Ridgeback?

Where were Ridgeback's made back then?


I'm guessing if it is a ridgeback then its probably Taiwan.

It could however be a Saracen :? Its been refurbished at some point with new (more modern) decals.

I'm guessing I will never know but seeing yours brings some hope though. :D

What are your plans? I could do with your rear mech, bars & stem :lol: :lol: :lol:


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