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Super lightweight tricked out sub 20 ib bikes? Cool or rubbish?
No way - pointless - feel like riding uncooked spagetti. Wouldnt risk my life. 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
Kinda ok 25%  25%  [ 16 ]
Awesome weight engineering prowess. I'd drill my tyres if I could. 63%  63%  [ 40 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:01 pm 
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I remember when one American mag (I forget which one) built a 19.5lbs Merlin Ti softail - my friends and I drooled over that for months, and started drawing up lists of ultimate bikes and their weights, trying to get to that mythical 20lbs mark...

Whilst fragile bikes are never good to ride, as an exercise in engineering, and simply for the wow-factor: 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:58 pm 
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everyone needs a sub20lb bike in their stable :D


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In the time before suspension, most quality MTB's were light and flickable. This was a golden age of handling and sensitivity, and many of us are returning to this very time. To test the theory, select your favourite off road route and then hammer it on a lightweight bike...you'll soon realise whether you're a good rider or not!!

Let's not forget that the materials used are almost as equally important as their respective weights.

But before I get technical, yes...THE LIGHTER, THE RIGHTER!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:43 pm 
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I got drawn into all this lightness lark too.....alloy & ti bolts, ditching the plastic caps from the cranks and the seat QR, even milling a groove in the front of my LX cranks :shock:

Now I'm older (and a little heavier!) I'll settle for durability.....what was it Keith Bontrager said, strong, light, cheap pick two, I'll go for strong & cheap :D

Stu


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It was slightly before my time.
I used to work with some guy who:
cut his gripshift in half
only used half the barend clamp on the bar, so he could have narrower bars
used ritchey canti's, which meant his frame didn't need the spring holes on canti mounts

:lol:


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Benandemu wrote:
In the time before suspension, most quality MTB's were light and flickable.

I don't think anyones saying light and flickable isn't good, but the point at which the drill comes out is when its gone too far imho. So is sacrificing ride characteristics for weight as in the case of very narrow bars.
A bike should be as light as it can get without me ever wondering 'should I ride that with 'x' component?'


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:53 am 
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stevet1 wrote:
Benandemu wrote:
In the time before suspension, most quality MTB's were light and flickable.

I don't think anyones saying light and flickable isn't good, but the point at which the drill comes out is when its gone too far imho. So is sacrificing ride characteristics for weight as in the case of very narrow bars.
A bike should be as light as it can get without me ever wondering 'should I ride that with 'x' component?'


I dont think anyone would disagree with that. however theres something incredibularly cool about 1 off, or limited season race bikes. I'm thinking Neds 1990 worlds ultimate, henriks P20TEAM extended seattube frame etc, etc. a good friend has 1 of steve peats old GT DH frames & thats waay liter than normal.


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Scant, weren't you sourcing a photo of the extended seat tube Ritchey for me? :wink:


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P20 wrote:
Scant, weren't you sourcing a photo of the extended seat tube Ritchey for me? :wink:


yeh I found it, looks pretty nice, sorry dont hava scanner ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:22 am 
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:lol: He teases yet again :lol:


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