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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:00 pm 
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The thing about warranty replacement is not true, tough. I bought this used attitude which cracked after a month, and it was replaced by a brand new adroit by the importer without proof of purchase. Ok it was a front suspended 1999 model, but it came free of charce. This shows seriousness...


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 Post subject: Breakage
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:12 pm 
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Trek are good at replacements, no problem, Klein themselves were whole different story!


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Have you ever seen one close up, they are super smooth and very well built and finished. They are mosre expensive than i would like but how many other manufacturers make the effort to conceal cables and etch out the name!!!!

Still i will take a Merlin/Litespeed/Pace any day over one.


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 Post subject: Quality
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:43 pm 
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Got both a Modern XLM Merlin and a GT Lightning, So know what U mean, no comparison, with a Klein, in a much better class than a Coke Can Klein.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:49 pm 
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Wold Ranger wrote:
Got both a Modern XLM Merlin and a GT Lightning, So know what U mean, no comparison, with a Klein, in a much better class than a Coke Can Klein.


No need to get offensive fella,like i said earlier each to their own.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:52 pm 
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Good thread, always wondered what they rode like. Saw my first one BITD in Dales and was smitten, though I still wouldn't pay the dosh for one, as above would rather have a ton of other stuff first, but can see the attraction.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:05 pm 
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The '91 attitude I had was one of the best rigs I've ridden. This includes my current handmade in Italy titanium hardtail


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When I first time ride Klein -91, it was something really different. Really fast and responsive. After that I have allways wanted to own Klein.

I do have also Merlin Mountain and must say that it´s also really wonderfull bike, bu different way. If I want to go ride for "Finnish trails" where is a lot roots and rocks I choose Merlin. Beacuse it´s way more comfortable.
But If I want to enjoy fast and light ride I choose Klein.
Only couple hours ago, I wondered how this bike can feel so different and funny than any other bike I have ridden.....I was riding with my -90 Attitude :)


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 Post subject: Klein
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:26 pm 
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BITD this was their nickname, (Not bein abusive my friend) as they had a habit of literally folding up like a Coke can, Quite a few of us had them back then and they were serious money, Adroits and Attitudes were £1000 a frame off memory? Not much fun when your frame cracks after three months and they won't honour the Warranty!! :(
There was just too many of them doing this for it to be abuse or coincidence.
The Adroit Race I had, was in Medium and the frame just weighed shy of 2.7 pounds. even decent quality modern race HT frames weigh a pound more than this, I think they were just pushing the butting too far to save weight and create a name, they had to use big tube diameters just to support the ultra thin tubes, in the centre, they were literally as thin as a Coke Can. I cut my down tube in half after mine expired and Mic'd it against a Coke can as sold at the time, they Mic'd pretty much the same! No wonder they were so light and rode so compliantly! Or why they cracked/bent so readily.
A good race bike for a few races, but not a Trail bike with any ability to stand abuse!.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:07 pm 
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You and your friends obviously had bad experiances with Klein as I have with a number of brands including GT,Fisher and Giant but it sounds like their customer service left alot to be desired unlike the ones I've mentioned who did replace the frames I snapped.There does seem to be a fair few of Kleins around still though.


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