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 Post subject: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:39 pm 
Geoff Capes
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Location: On my laptop somewhere..
I was digging about in my spares box for things to sell.. I bought this Stem for a build a few months ago but never fitted it:Image

:shock:on close inspection before advertising it, I see the cracks around the bolt holes (4 of them) I won't be selling that then!! That's £20 down the gurgler. At least we are all safe.

Anyone else done this?


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:04 pm 
Retro Guru
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Hi Saul,

I remember selling this stem for you. Could you just send me pics of both sides of the stem & we'll work this out.


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:30 pm 
retrobike rider
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SRAM X-Rays, Two sets (clear on smoke)
Both fine when I bought them as far as I could remember.
Left them in a box for a few month for a build, came to use them and cracks all over one set the other set just starting to go.


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:40 pm 
retrobike rider
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Sold an XT mech on eBay.
While waiting for my wife to give birth, I was on here reading threads as there was nothing else to do(!)
Saw a thread asking if a front mech looked like it had a cracked cage, looked at the pictures and didn't think it did but every else that had replied saying it did, so I didn't post.
Couple of hours later I got an email saying a mech I sold was cracked. Then put two and two together and realised the thread was about my mech!
Refunded him and he was very nice about it.

I won't mention who it was, but I'm sure he'll read this :p


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:46 pm 
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Sold a Dave Yates Diablo frame, which had had a massive repair, I hadn't noticed.

To this day I still don't know how I missed it.

All resolved amicably, but very :facepalm:


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:52 pm 
rBoTM Winner
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Seen stacks of 'over tightened' parts on modern bikes!
Thats why many parts have the tightening force advice
etched into them to stop this and to use a mini torque wrench.


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:04 pm 
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Well....sort of. Saw a Wanted advert on a local site requesting for a retro Ti frame. Thought, ah sell on the Parkpre Pro Elite so replied and the guy was super interested and paid in full straight away. Got a large box for posting, stripped the bike down and then cleaned the frame ready for packing. Noticed cracks in both chainstays at the BB junction. Of course I was apologetic, and gave a full refund as I did not want to sell it in that condition.

The frame then got used for unscientific destructive testing and went in the bin.


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:01 am 
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Ian Raleigh wrote:
Seen stacks of 'over tightened' parts on modern bikes!
Thats why many parts have the tightening force advice
etched into them to stop this and to use a mini torque wrench.


Another essential tool for the ham fisted such as me?


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:30 am 
retrobike rider
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The History Man wrote:
Ian Raleigh wrote:
Seen stacks of 'over tightened' parts on modern bikes!
Thats why many parts have the tightening force advice
etched into them to stop this and to use a mini torque wrench.


Another essential tool for the ham fisted such as me?



Especially the modern carbon stuff......I have an s-works road bike, and wouldn't go near it without a torque wrench for fear of the dreaded noise of something cracking......


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 Post subject: Re: Aaargh!...Cracks
PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:10 am 
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The stem in question is a early Azonic which has a bit different clamp design than on later ones. Have a look at this (not mine but good pics): http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 1057019348
On the later ones the clamp bolts aren't that close to the clamp edge, probably for a reason. I remember on this particular stem there was an L-shaped line on every corner on the side of the clamp so they didn't catch my attention because they were so "similar" and the L-shape was somehow "industrial" looking :oops: .


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