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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:43 pm 
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I think you missing the 20 or so years between the cranks being made with the poor bearings by Roger and his son later picking up the company and trying to re-launch the bearings

Also watch if you are fitting the cranks to a Pace RC100, they need yet another length spindle...

Gen 1 cranks were mainly BMX with a direct bolt chainring
Gen 2 cranks were MTB and touring cranks with a direct mount TA chainring or spider spacing
Gen 3 ...unsure


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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:24 pm 
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Thanks Gil. So I guess the re-launch stalled as you don't seem to be able to get the new(er) bearings any more. what do you know about that?


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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:30 pm 
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All what Gil says!
Bear in mind if you are searching, BMX and track versions are out there a-plenty with different and un-useful spindle lengths for MTB, so back onto ebay they go. Again and again. Pace I seem to remember used their own spider for their chainrings and chainline (RC100).
Early genuine Bullseye BBs were unsealed with just a rubber washer over the bearings. Super low drag (which if you ever see the marketing blurb that orginally came with the Hubs/ BB/ Jockey wheels) was what they made a big deal out of- faster through less drag.
My (original) bullseye crank BB machine doesn't see the rain for this reason, mud destroys the open bearings.


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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:56 am 
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Thanks, any chance you could add some pictures of your BB as there seems to be quite a few options/ideas.

What spindle length do you need for an MTB? How do you adjust the chainline or is it fixed?


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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:33 am 
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Is this what's needed?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/BULLSEYE-EURO-BM ... 8973626747


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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:21 pm 
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Hi,
Just read your thread..

And have come across these on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BULLSEYE-EURO ... 3cd7c3b21f

Not sure if they are what you want, expensive as well..

Bye for now..

Martin


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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:25 pm 
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These are the same ones I just put the link up to as well. They certainly look like Nader's but we'll have to wait and see if Pierre gets excited or not :D . I'm still not that confident yet in what I'm looking for so wouldn't want to bid.


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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:34 am 
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This is getting silly, maybe a few photos will help

Gen 2 crank 22.2 Spindle/TA direct mount Chainring/My Shims/Shimano HollowTech II Mountain BB

Total spindle Length 150mm ~ this includes the drive side crank arm width as well, spindle itself is around 125mm (hard to measure without removing chainring)

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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:06 pm 
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Pictures are great; thanks.

I think, I've finally got this... :oops:

Pierre is using a BMX Euro BB which takes a 22mm spindle; hence the need to mill 0.2mm off.

A Hollowtech II spindle is 24mm, so the shims are 1.8mm.

I guess the chainline is fixed depending on the spindle length or I suppose you could you spacers?

I also found this http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18524 which has some interesting info.

Now the hunt begins... anyone got a 177mm 2G crank with a 150mm spindle?


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 Post subject: Re: Bullseye cranks
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:26 pm 
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...yes if you have the funds :wink:


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