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 Post subject: Muddy Fox dating
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:55 pm 
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Hi Guys, I have a black Muddy Fox MB-MF 26 A which I believe I bought in 1988
Unsure whether Courier or Explorer
Down tube sticker says S & G Cycles made by Araya
Seat tube has Araya 480509 stamped on it
Champion Mountain Bike purple & pink sticker just below seat
Shimano brakes

Can anyone confirm year of manufacture for me?
Also I am changing the bars so lose my front brake cable fitting, where can I get a stem fitting that will work?

Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Muddy Fox dating
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:42 pm 
National & North West AEC
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Mr Kawasaki had an S&G Cycles Muddy Fox which he'd determined was from 1986.
There's a bit of info here:--> viewtopic.php?t=138012

I'm not sure, but I think that the Muddy Fox brand really established itself in 1987 and lost the S&G Cycles moniker. The model names including 'Courier' and 'Explorer' were also first seen then too.

It'd be great to see some photos of your bike.


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 Post subject: Re: Muddy Fox dating
PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:21 pm 
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Excellent, thats it exactly! Thanks, I kept thinking it could be '87, seems it's poss.


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 Post subject: Re: Muddy Fox dating
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Happy to help.


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 Post subject: Re: Muddy Fox dating
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:38 pm 
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As Paul says, pre 88.

I believe S&G moniker was dropped in 87, so the last S&G i remember being available was in 86.

1987 was the same jam jar labels but jam jar paw print head tube stickers as well.

1988 was jam jar paw print head tube and plain black bold decals on down/ top tubes..


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 Post subject: Re: Muddy Fox dating
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:12 pm 
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Some of the S&G era bikes also had names, the pathfinder name first appeared in about 1985 on an S&G muddyfox, resurrected in 1989.
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewto ... =muddy+fox
Be nice to see some pictures but it does sound pre-87 to me.

Carl


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 Post subject: Re: Muddy Fox dating
PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:56 pm 
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Thanks guys, MF does not appear on the bike, must be one of the last before the change over of name transfer


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 Post subject: Re: Muddy Fox dating
PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:29 pm 
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I think its an 84 as its exactly the same as mine - and the frame number is 9 away from MADB's bike! so I guess they're sisters!


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