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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:15 pm 
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This guy's been selling these frames in Toronto for a couple of years http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/670955/

Seller claims that these are Tomac designed Raleighs. But I've never seen this style Tomac/Raleigh frame anywhere else. Also, the welds don't look all that well done. Do you think these are legit?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:32 pm 
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I'd start by pinning a model number. mti1000? Then you can do a google search and see if a non-wishbone version turns up and look at close ups of welds to see if they are similar.

That cable guide on the side might be a good identification feature too. I've never seen one like it (big deal) and it does seem mti1000ish:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:31 pm 
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It is rather odd that the photOs shoW a random piece of paper right where one might find the decals of THE REAL MAKER?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:42 pm 
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Well, there is the shot of the complete bike:

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And if you are trying funny, surly it's easy to remove the decals before shooting?

What want to know about are stamps on the bottom bracket and dropouts.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:58 pm 
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US version of the Dynatech Torus, nice Ti frames but only worth about $260 - $280 CDN


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:09 pm 
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I thought those raleigh tomac things were made from russian ti?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:21 pm 
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Russkis know a thing or two about Ti. The only nation in the world to successfully manufacture submarines with hulls made out of the stuff.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:24 pm 
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Sure did, nothing against the Russians, or their Ti. Just thought they were made form it and the sire selling says UK Ti.

Not saying i't true, just what I thought.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:00 pm 
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Caramba Kid wrote:
US version of the Dynatech Torus, nice Ti frames but only worth about $260 - $280 CDN



Thanks for the info. I thought $499 was pretty cheap if it really was a Tomac/Raleigh.
I guess I'll pass on these.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:56 pm 
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Caramba Kid wrote:
US version of the Dynatech Torus, nice Ti frames but only worth about $260 - $280 CDN

Is that used? £175 for a nos ti frame is cheap as chips? I bought a very well priced used frame, the same as these but with the wishbone rear end for not far off what you think a nos one is worth. I don't think I'd want to pay the asking, but I reckon 300-350 would be what I'd be looking to get one for, and you never know, you mention he has been selling them for ages.

I don't think these have anything Russian about them either, there is a post on here somewhere where the ex Raleigh employee responsible for a lot of the ti range explained who made what and where. As these are the us version, it could be a different story, but it would it make sense economically to produce the same bike in the uk and the states from different materias would it?


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