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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:51 pm 
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But then it's meaningless if it's more limp than Larry Graysons wrist.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:55 pm 
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Chopper1192 wrote:
But then it's meaningless if it's more limp than Larry Graysons wrist.

That depends on how fat you are.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:16 pm 
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My 19 C-T Axis R comes in at 24.9lb built, with M737/9 groupo, M785 pedals, Flite ti, X-Lite seatpin, Judy SLs and hope ti/Mavic X517s. It is a great ride. My 19 C-T Axis (same frame) comes in at 23.5lb built, and is 99% factory spec, so M737, tripple butted forks, Weinmann rims. Great ride too.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:39 pm 
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I have a 94 garyfisher. Forget the name but its near the bottom of the range and thats bang on 5lb

Agree its more on how its built.

Pretty sure my old e stay saracen was something like 6 1/2?!


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:15 pm 
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The relevance of a light frame is much more about its ride qualities and feel than its contribution to bike-weight.

A light frame doesn't have to be a wet noodle at all, my Breezer weighs about 4lbs and gives a lovely supple ride, not the least bit wimpy - it all depends on tube profiles, diameters, construction and design. I've ridden much heavier frames that flexed every which way.


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:52 pm 
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Chopper1192 wrote:
But then it's meaningless if it's more limp than Larry Graysons wrist.


Add a couple of water bottles, eat a couple of pies, and the whole weight issue becomes even more meaningless!


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:13 pm 
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ferrus wrote:
The relevance of a light frame is much more about its ride qualities and feel than its contribution to bike-weight.

A light frame doesn't have to be a wet noodle at all, my Breezer weighs about 4lbs and gives a lovely supple ride, not the least bit wimpy - it all depends on tube profiles, diameters, construction and design. I've ridden much heavier frames that flexed every which way.


4lbs is incredibly light, what is that made from?


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:17 pm 
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I chose my Zaskar all those years ago because it rode better for than the Prestige I'd borrowed, nowt has changed much - I'm still a bulky lump trying to ride a bicycle - super lightweight frames still feel like dry spaghetti. All my 'light' steel has gone with just the sturdy remaining.


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:31 pm 
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My 18" Salsa Ala Carte (2006?) is a claimed 4.45lbs.

True Temper Ox Platinum tubing.


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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:39 pm 
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highlandsflyer wrote:
ferrus wrote:
The relevance of a light frame is much more about its ride qualities and feel than its contribution to bike-weight.

A light frame doesn't have to be a wet noodle at all, my Breezer weighs about 4lbs and gives a lovely supple ride, not the least bit wimpy - it all depends on tube profiles, diameters, construction and design. I've ridden much heavier frames that flexed every which way.


4lbs is incredibly light, what is that made from?

Just over 4lbs I think, it uses Breeze's 'D-Fusion' tubing, a heat-treated 4130 set iirc made by Hodaka to Joe's Spec's.


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