I am the guilty person and I present myself for a good horsewhipping!
They're good bikes, great bikes even , but they lack that certain sparkle this makes them mythical, either in terms of their position in history of when justifying an inflated asking price.
If you're after a steel framed bike to ride then you're onto a winner. If you think they're in some way any so radical, awesome or artful that they're work an asking price in excess of any other typical decent quality Steele (Pace, Alpinestars, higher end Saracen even - deletes appropriate) then your deluded.
Even today they don't have a modern product at the top of any of the individual bike categories, not by a long way, but this strange and unjustified gusset moistness at the mention of the name persists.
I also stand up and say WERE
Generic shaping,generic styling, made in the far east and heavier than they used to be meaning theyre only butting top frames and the rest are bog standard gas pipe
Heaviest frame ive ever seen an a £1000 bike.
1976 Raleigh Chipper,1991 Muddy Fox Adventurer,1991 Claud Butler Ventoux 400 ,1992 Raleigh Diablo ,1992 Rudy Project, 1995 Cannondale M200 ,1997 Santa Cruz Tazmon ,1997 Specialized Stumpjumper ,1997 Specialized Rockhopper ,1997 Marin Quake 9.0,1998 Marin Pallisade trail ,1998 Raleigh Torus,1999 Orange Clockwork , 2005 Kona Hahanna ,2007 On-One Inbred ,2010 Orange Pure7 And of course The Ti
The Marvellous Mechanical Hope Collection ,and other Hope niceties