...I'm enjoying this thread. Some comments related to:
"Because they don't want to pander to idiots that think weight is more important than how a bike rides and performs."
"Any fool that buys a bike based on a claimed weight rather than the way it rides is a, Erm, fool."
"Because most people don't give a shit, and rightly so "
Hands up those who think a bike weight as some bearing on how a bike handles! Come on, they are related!
I may be a bit of an old roady in the past where admittedly there is a total obsession about weight and I may be brain washed that way, but if you cock your leg over a 10 Kg bike vs a 20 Kg bike they will
perform different and arguably - all other things being equal - the 10 Kg will be nimble, faster acceleration, faster deceleration and not feel like a anvil between your legs up climbs.
Also, I'm the kind of guy who will justify a double dollop of branston pickle with the mayonnais because of having a Ti front skewer...but that just me.
On another note, the suggestion of getting a modern then stripping off the bulk with your own selected kit is a good way to go. I prefer to mix the right light retro stuff with the right light more modern stuff and I know a 10 Kg with a good fit just feels right for what I do. The lightest frame I had was this http://www.mtbr.com/cat/older-categorie ... 10crx.aspx
and it rode great but
in all honesty I cringed every time a rock / stone hit the down-tube and knew it would fail at some point.....according to the manufacturer the market simply went out for light weight bikes as people all wanted full suspension. Shame really.
It seems though around 2005-ish, things did put on bulk. Rock Shox SIDs spring to mind that have got heavier but of course much better. Nothing wrong with Titec 118 gram Ti handlebar if it's not abused by going down the white cliffs of Dover. Tyres have got much better and lighter. Some of lightest rims are old skool where really the weight savings on modern wheels is down to the hubs alone.
Finally, asking the chap in the bike shop to weigh the damn bike in front of you is the way to go.....ask him to strip it down too and get the individual component weights in a spread sheet to study at leisure would be even better
Favorite quote on Retrobike:
Not worth the petrol to take it to the tip so it's down to the angle grinder to make it small enough to put in the wheely bin.