I think I bought the Syncros cranks new in 1997 but they had been available for several years.
From memory the RS3 came out in 1994 so the RS2 was prior to that.
Radomad, please call skf & explain the error of their ways? You're normally the voice of reason & sense, so I'd like to know your explanation for their error?
I really can't grasp why the grease camp think it's all over when the majority of manufacturers are on the dry list.
For me I'll say that I've moved from NO to AS & a very specific variety at that, not copper & not lubricating grease.
There's a few more additions to the list:
FSA http://www.fullspeedahead.com/storage/i ... 319_v3.pdf
Phil Wood http://www.philwood.com/support/faqs.php
Rene Herse http://janheine.wordpress.com/category/ ... se-cranks/
Some comments / opinions:
- Shimano altered there position what seems to be from the mid-90s / late-90s. Perhaps to be simply opposite to Campagnolo or after doing their own uncommunicated R&D as to why. Who knows?
- It seems some manufactures offer there own magic, perhaps because they make a complete chainset with their own set of tolerances to achieve an optimal fit and only want consumers to buy the whole lot.
- Race Face gave a very complete reasoning, putting other manufactures to shame really.
- I "heard" that Middleburn were meant to be used with Royce BITD, which would perhaps explain they are in the same camp.
- I suspect there is a certain amount of manufactures simply copying the position of another manufacturer, leaving us the consumer with a 16 page thread to get to the bottom of it
What winds me up the most with the "No Grease" camp is the generic spiel of "it can damage and deform the crank if pushed on too far" like this bod http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XhcLErjHn0
When are we going to see some measurements of the apocalyptic "too far" point expressed in mm or a % of taper length for a specific - or typical - crank and BB combination? It's a known engineering fact that some "deformation" of the crank is required for it to sit properly so clearly there is a "sweet spot" range not properly communicated by pretty much all manufactures.
When I hear this "too far and could damage" argument it echos someone saying "ooooh....you could strip that bolt thread if you tighten the nut too much". Yes, sure you are right if I was a hamfisted pleb / brute with no feel for materials. I could strip a thread with or without lube too. It's just an utter nonsense stand point.
Favorite quote on Retrobike:
Not worth the petrol to take it to the tip so it's down to the angle grinder to make it small enough to put in the wheely bin.