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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:16 pm 
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Here's a couple of 92 Prestige frames. Note the several differences between them. I think Orange made changes every time they ordered another batch of frames. I remember Steve Wade being described as 'tinkering', so maybe that's his style of designing. The white diamond-shaped sticker denotes Tange Superlight.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:09 pm 
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My prestige is a 17" 93 and is the spit of the first pic.


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FluffyChicken wrote:
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It's a built up bike so I'll strip it down and weigh it


Do pictures first or compare the stay canti cable stop to a Prestige
PICTURES!


Just to add now I'm on the computer, not a phone.
My belief is the Prestige used the wishbone cable stop as in the pictures above always for this year.
The Clockwork used a two pronged side to side type thing at this time. (it may have used the prestige style at some point earlier on* ?)
Of course if it has one the style above it doesn't mean it is, but if it doesn't I think it means it isn't

As an example (For reference A303xxx serial, top pull with roller, not the flat bottom to the reinforced seat tube section for this later 'future/zero's/square/.. style graphic)

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Clockwork similar era
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* the offset stay lower then the top tube, '92-ish ? bottom tube routed ?


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Yep, Clockwork canti mount was solid by this point.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:59 pm 
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Ok guys this is the bike in question, like I said before, I was told it was repainted in the mid 90s by Argos and then later type (more square) decals where applied. I just wanted confirmation of its type and I suppose you never know one of you lot may well know the bike.


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That is the same styling as a '1992' Prestige in my opinion.
Just like this A203xxx erial
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=165204
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By A209xxx the clockwork had moved to top tube routing front mech and had the splayed brake stay boss
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=222252
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Now to find an earlier Clockwork. A20...

As I think the late A1xx may have still had the Prestige style hanger ?


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My 1990 Clockwork has the same style rear canti hanger.


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I've found the style of bike I was looking for and if it dates early 1992 then yours will be a Prestige.

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FluffyChicken wrote:
I've found the style of bike I was looking for and if it dates early 1992 then yours will be a Prestige.

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Im getting confused now


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Karmann wrote:
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I've found the style of bike I was looking for and if it dates early 1992 then yours will be a Prestige.

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Im getting confused now


That's a Clockwork in the picture.

- Early pre-92 clockworks as far as I know used the same style rear canti cable stop on the stay as seen in the early Orange/White clockwork above with the offset stay/toptube, I'm sure I've seen it on a later one with the normal setstay/toptube setup like yours.

- Late 92 Clockworks (mentioned above, have top tube routed cables) have the 'clockwork splayed style. Prestiges the 'Prestige style' stop.

- Your bike lies in the changeover period.
Bottom Pull, early 92's. So it certainty of being a Prestige cannot be give yet.

But if a Clockwork like the one shown* dates early 92, which I believe it should, then that means they had changed with that style of '92' frame and yours must be a Prestige.

And also creates a reference :)

(*unfortunately it cannot be read so need to look for another.)


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