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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:27 am 
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In terms of your stem.... it would look a bit like this (if you removed it)

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So basically.... as you do the bolt up, it pulls up the wedge shaped bit and jams it in to the forks. So guessing that the old bolt was knacered and he put something else in it's place. If that's the case the the top cap isn't doing a lot more than keeping muck out.

By the way - what exactley do you mean by, 'the collar that holds the stem on to the bike'? The big round bit at the top of the head tube (that's the tube at the front that the forks go through)? If so that's probably the top of the headset.

To be honest - I might be tempted to buy some tools (if you haven't got any) and strip the lot down to a frame and put it back together again. Really not that difficult and will give you a good idea of what you're dealing with and also is a good way to check that nothing cracked or broken.

To be fair, looks like a nice enough bike. Certainly worth putting some effort in to. :)



do i not need to keep the much out ?? I wuld have though that quite important...

'the collar that holds the stem on to the bike'? i mean the stem that has a saddle on top !!!

I have a few tools and will give the whole stripping it down thing a go whne i have time between work and kids .. I want to give the frame a good polish so it will help.

What specalist tools will i need. I have most general stuff. Is there many bike specific tools ? Is there any good onlime tutirials or indeed books that would help me ??

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criisbike wrote:
do i not need to keep the much out ?? I wuld have though that quite important...


How do you mean? Sorry don't quite understand this... but then again it's late and my brain's stopped working. :)

criisbike wrote:
'the collar that holds the stem on to the bike'? i mean the stem that has a saddle on top !!!


Ah! Sorry for the confusion - I'd call that a seatpost :) In which case I think that Kona's have a special thing called a 'dog collar' so you may be best just to clean it up. Could be utterly wrong on that - not a Kona specialist but plenty on here are. :)

In terms of online tutorials - best bet is just ask specific quesitons on here. All sorts of people on this site - framebuilders, mechanics, enthusiasts, etc so lots of people with a good solid lot of advice. :) (pics always help to :) )


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welcome to retro bike chris.......a bike is really a pretty simple mechanical device.....have the courage to take it apart, you will learn as you go along and any questions will be quickly answered by the reservoir of knowledge and experience that lurks in these parts......buy good tools once rather than cheap, compromised tools twice and you will have the kit and experience to sort the next few bikes that will surely follow as you get aquainted with the rabble that will read this.....ride with us and enjoy what follows..... :D.....regarding the dog collar, they require a length of cable inner running from the cable stop at the front of the top tube past the collar, ending before the straddle cable that splits the braking force between the rear canti's......this stops the cable rubbing the collar, improving brake feel and efficiency, allowing you to lube it properly and preventing wear......send me a pm if you struggle, i will post you some......darren :D


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petitpal wrote:
criisbike wrote:
do i not need to keep the much out ?? I wuld have though that quite important...


the top cap of the stem... is it not important.. keeping muck out ?


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feetabix wrote:
welcome to retro bike chris.......a bike is really a pretty simple mechanical device.....have the courage to take it apart, you will learn as you go along and any questions will be quickly answered by the reservoir of knowledge and experience that lurks in these parts......buy good tools once rather than cheap, compromised tools twice and you will have the kit and experience to sort the next few bikes that will surely follow as you get aquainted with the rabble that will read this.....ride with us and enjoy what follows..... :D


sure thing.. Is there any tools I have to have ? i have done rpairs at our local free workshop 'cranks' in brighton and used tools for removing cranks and taking of gear cogs.. But i have always had expets on hand to help. They have shown me round the basics of keeping a bike going .. Even how to strighten a bent wheel ... taking a whole bike apart in the kitchen will be somthing else though. Also .. I kind of need it to get to work so any dismanteling and reasebling would ideally be completed in a few night/days..

But agian .. where to start ? replacing the wheels would be simple enough ?


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1991 CANNONDALE M1000 : 1993 DAVE YATES D.O.N.K.I.S.N.O.B. : 1992 CLOCKWORK ORANGE : 1995 KONA CINDER CONE : 1991 STUMPJUMPER COMP : 1992 KLEIN ATTITUDE DOLOMITE : 2008 TREK 8500 : 2009 TREK EX9 FULL SUSSER : 1984 JACK TAYLOR ROAD BIKE : 1988 BARRY HOBAN ROAD BIKE : 1992 DYNATECH CHROMO COMP : 2008 S-WORKS ROAD BIKE : 1991 LITESPEED TITANIUM : 1991 TREK 8700 : 1991 FISHER HOOKOOEKOO E STAY :


you have all of those ????


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specialist tools needed for headset removal, bottom bracket removal, adjusting cones on hubs, chain removal, cutting cables and outers, cassette removal, and wheel truing......other than that, a good set of allen hex keys and spanners should suffice.....get stuck in mate, we are all here 24/7 for advice!.... :D


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1991 CANNONDALE M1000 : 1993 DAVE YATES D.O.N.K.I.S.N.O.B. : 1992 CLOCKWORK ORANGE : 1995 KONA CINDER CONE : 1991 STUMPJUMPER COMP : 1992 KLEIN ATTITUDE DOLOMITE : 2008 TREK 8500 : 2009 TREK EX9 FULL SUSSER : 1984 JACK TAYLOR ROAD BIKE : 1988 BARRY HOBAN ROAD BIKE : 1992 DYNATECH CHROMO COMP : 2008 S-WORKS ROAD BIKE : 1991 LITESPEED TITANIUM : 1991 TREK 8700 : 1991 FISHER HOOKOOEKOO E STAY :


you have all of those ????




more!.......18 in total!......it keeps my mind from wandering to the fairer sex though, so my better half is happy!.......dont be too impressed, it becomes a consuming passion, plenty of folk here who's collections knock mine into a cocked hat, in terms of both quality and quantity!..... :D


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i hope those i miss out will forgive me, i have been with spence this evening, sampling his fine ales.....anyone else who has done so will appreciate my brain is on 50% power, but look at sinnermans collection for an abject lesson in attention to detail and quality.....truly inspiring!....i just play at it!....


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