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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:31 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Hello!

I'd be interested in getting myself a Charge Duster Mid (2011/2012).
I love the steel frame bikes and these Charge Duster models look just perfect to me. But what I'm worried about is that they seem to be rather expensive considering their equipment.

So I would very much appreciate your opinions regarding the price of these bikes (1000-1300 £).

Regards,
Alina


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:08 pm 
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Retrobike,

the clue is in the name :wink:

however if i was spending that sort of money i would want better spec myself,

as it is retro inspired with its cromo frame and all that why not buy the real mcoy . £1300 would buy you a minty mint titanium xtr specced dream machine here


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:05 pm 
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What exactly is a mcoy? :P


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:06 pm 
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This will be moved to the post '98 section in short order, no doubt, but which version of the Duster were you looking at - derailleur geared or Alfine geared?
People who have them seem to like them and I don't think the specification is that bad for the money.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:13 pm 
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Oh dear! I'm afraid I know nothing about these things... I only know I like the looks of these Duster models (Eleven/Mid). And as the Duster Mid is cheaper...

Please excuse my English!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:14 pm 
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Alina wrote:
What exactly is a mcoy? :P


hmmm excuse my spelling i type too quick for my brain sometimes

the real mccoy is:

Meaning
The real thing - not a substitute.
Origin
The Real McCoy (or 'real mackay', 'real macoy', 'real mackoy'...) rivals 'the whole nine yards', 'okay' and 'the full monty' for pre-eminence in the 'I can explain that phrase' stakes. As usual, plausibility and frequent retelling are considered enough for absolute certainty. With that in mind, please read on...
There are several people and things that the phrase has been applied to - which came first is uncertain.
• McCoy is derived from Mackay, referring to Messrs. Mackay, Edinburgh, who made a brand of fine whisky from 1856 onwards and which that they promoted as 'the real MacKay' from 1870.

This could have been derived from the branch of the MacKay family from Reay, Scotland, i.e. 'the Reay Mackay'.

• After Kid McCoy (Norman Selby,1873-1940), American welterweight boxing champion.

The story goes, and there are various versions of it, that a drunk challenged Selby to prove that he was McCoy and not one of the many lesser boxers trading under the same name. After being knocked to the floor the drunk rose to admit that 'Yes, that's the real McCoy'.

• Elijah McCoy, the Canadian inventor educated in Scotland, made a successful machine for lubricating engines which spawned many copies, all inferior to the original. He patented the design in 1872.


• The feud between the Hatfield and McCoy families, of West Virginia and Kentucky respectively, in the 1880s.


• The phrase originates with a dispute between two branches of the Scots Mackay clan over who was their rightful leader. The head of one branch was Lord Reay, who came to be known as the Reay Mackay which migrated to 'the real McCoy'.
• Joseph McCoy (1837-1915), became mayor of Abilene, Kansas as it developed into a sizeable town. He called himself 'the real McCoy'.
• Bill McCoy was a US rumrunner during the prohibition years and his 'real' rum, imported from Canada, was compared favourably with poor quality local brews.
• McCoy was a Pennsylvanian who supplied commercial nitro-glycerine to safecrackers who favoured it over their own homemade efforts.
• McCoy is a corruption of Macao which was the source of a pure and sought-after class of heroin.
The list goes on and there are several other versions going the rounds but they carry little conviction.
Given that there's no hard evidence the favourite has the be the earliest reference. That's a close call, as many of the sources date back to the second half of the 19th century. The earliest printed citation is from 1856, in Deil's Hallowe'en:
"A drappie o' the real McKay."
This clearly refers to the McKay (or Mackay) whisky.
The 'Real McCoy' comes later, and appears to be of US origin. Whether this translated from MacKay to McCoy as it travelled from Scotland to the US, as Elijah McCoy did himself, or whether it originated there independently, we can't be sure.

I still think you could get better for your money :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:25 pm 
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Alina wrote:
Oh dear! I'm afraid I know nothing about these things... I only know I like the looks of these Duster models (Eleven/Mid). And as the Duster Mid is cheaper...

Please excuse my English!


The Duster 11 is the Alfine geared one (with hub gears) and the other will be derailleur geared, that's the reason that it's cheaper.
Personally, I'm a big fan of Alfine hubs (the 8 speed version in particular) but, no doubt, any number of people will be along in a minute to say that they're no use for "serious" mountain bike riding (whatever that is.....).


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:26 pm 
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I feel drunk...

Thanks! I had already googled for any mcoy bikes and got quite confused. :oops:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:30 pm 
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Alina wrote:
The Duster 11 is the Alfine geared one (with hub gears) and the other will be derailleur geared, that's the reason that it's cheaper.
Personally, I'm a big fan of Alfine hubs (the 8 speed version in particular) but, no doubt, any number of people will be along in a minute to say that they're no use for "serious" mountain bike riding (whatever that is.....).


Aah, I see... Thanks!
I shall find out how "serious" would I get.


Last edited by Alina on Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:32 pm 
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Location: No brakes? Way to commit soldier.
I had a Duster and hated it. I couldn't sell it quick enough.

Not to say that you won't love it though.


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