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Coolwall October 2011 - Entry Level Groupsets
Cool 19%  19%  [ 32 ]
Uncool 81%  81%  [ 140 ]
Total votes : 172
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:19 pm 
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Drencrom wrote:
Carge wrote:
I started with 300LX...


Pedantic as it may be, this is about the groupsets below, which weren't a patch on 300-500LX.


Pedantic as this may be, you didn't pick on the last guy to mention that he started with 300LX.
I was quite aware of EXACTLY what the scope was - and was merely suggesting that irrelevant of cool or incool, we all owe a debt to low end groupsets, that enabled us all to get started in this wonderful FRIENDLY sport
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OK!!!

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Drencrom wrote:
jax13 wrote:
my point is simply that in the right situation, on the right bike and with the right reasoning, they can be considered cool by those who appreciate the picture as a whole'


Any examples you can post up?


physical examples - no. and to be honest i can't be bothered scouring the readers bikes section for one either!

as i have repeated many times, to me, a low end frame on low-end parts being ridden hard at any opportunity is cooler by a long chalk than a boutique wall hanger.

they might not ride as nicely, they might not look as good but the way it is being used as a practical instrument determines its appeal to me as i prefer function over form and have a soft spot for the underdog!


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As if I would've considered voting anything but uncool; getting struck with a non-drive side arm of a 200gs crankset, sealed the deal. Bollocks- that smarts!

not cool :evil:


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When I had my first mountain bike (a townsend) it had 15 speed un-indexed gears. The mustangs of the time were similarly equiped. Then the darker coloured mustangs came out, 18 speed, indexed gears, and above them were bikes with 200GS - cool then? No better than what I had but NOT COOL and not what I aspired to - I gradually replaced my parts with stuff from mid range which was arguable 'not cool' back then, (apart from my XT thumbies and road rear mech :D).

So as for the groupsets 70/100/200GS - Not Cool in my book and thats how I voted.

As for the people that ride them today - Cool.


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jax13 wrote:
as i have repeated many times, to me, a low end frame on low-end parts being ridden hard at any opportunity is cooler by a long chalk than a boutique wall hanger.


I'd be inclined to agree, but that doesn't make the groupset itself in anyway cool to me, which is after all what the vote is for.

Low-end bikes is another hot potato altogether, which is my point.

Going by some of the posts it seems that people are taking this as a poll for bikes equipped with 70/100/200GS groupsets, whereas I'm taking the vote to mean the parts themselves - nothing else.


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Drencrom wrote:
Going by some of the posts it seems that people are taking this as a poll for bikes equipped with 70/100/200GS groupsets, whereas I'm taking the vote to mean the parts themselves - nothing else.


this is true, although most things we deem cool would actually be uncool if they were sat against a plain background without some form of intended application to use as context for the vote.

oh, and the board has already spoken on this one...

http://www.retrobike.co.uk/?p=1497


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The mash up of bit's (Shimano light action, Lee-chi, SR Sakae, Diacompe) on my Raleigh Maverick was cooler than any of the toilet low rent groupsets that came later.
Having a dad who was an engineer meant anything that was plastic covered steel got cast to one side when choosing (meaning that I got a Holdsworth MTB as it had full Deore MT-60 rather than the Later '89 Courier Comp with some Exage Country parts) too, good advice though.

Carl.


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dirty grey, skiddy pants uncool.


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seriously uncool, anything under 300lx was junk that probably put more ppl off cycling than got them interested
now acera-x, mc11 circa 94, works great, looks like m737 kit. 8)


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