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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:31 pm 
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I remember working in a bike shop when my boss built a wheel he called "Crows Feet" pattern. Not snowflake, not radial and not regular three cross.

it had one radial spoke for every two that crossed it. In other words (and I thinkbecuase it was groups of three it would only work on a 36 hole hub) on each side there were some radial spokes and they were crosed by one either side.

Really should have thought this through as I am finding it difficult to explain!!

I thnk the theory behind it was that the radial spokes gave it lateral stifness but the to crossing spokes gave it more torsional stiffness. Or something...

Anyone seen one, heared of one, or got any pictures?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:17 pm 
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I was thinking of this, but it's actually Pine Cone:

http://www.bikecult.com/works/parts/pinecone48.html


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:39 pm 
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Now that is far ore fancy! But its not it. :(


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 Post subject: Found it!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:49 pm 
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Good old google!

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Thinking of getting it done for my 96 Hot. Is this where cost outweights effort which outweights performance which begs the question?


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 Post subject: This is crows foot
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:53 pm 
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This is "crows foot", sometimes also known as "swiss pattern".

In this case it's on a 24 spoke wheel using bladed spokes (on my 1972 Speedwell Titanium).


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:10 pm 
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Thats the ticket. But is it any good?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:06 pm 
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Not had any problems, but that's on road (only 24 spokes though and radial non drive).

Main reason I did it was to be different and save a little more weight (total bike weight is a tad over 15lb), but the wheel does seem stiff and responsive. The only potential problem I can see is that the spokes are slightly closer to the rear mech cage in bottom gear than on a standard 3 cross wheel.


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 Post subject: crows foot spokes
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:01 pm 
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I have just laced a 217 crows foot onto a shimano 36h rear.
Got to admit it isnt as cool looking in the flesh as it was in my head :(
Will let you know how it holds up (16 stone) :oops:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:12 pm 
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I'd be intersted in that. Thats my kind of tonage :lol:

Excellent name Retrobate. Why didn't I think of that! Doh.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:26 pm 
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how bizzare, i was just comingon to post about old spoke patterns....

Did anyone have Snowflakes? Google shows nowt :(


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