Dr S wrote:
Dr S wrote:
Cor blimey. We only get to choose between an Orange or a Kona?? Harsh.
Would have to be a Kona. I have never liked the way Oranges ride- tried them BITD and more recently. Konas have a decent ride and look nicer too.
yeh only due to tha fact that i chose the kona all those years ago, but always had a need to know how the orange rode in comparison, and i was intregued at others opinions, neither were handbuilt like the fats etc, all mass produced in the far east, but both were landmark brands for me and im sure a lot of others too....!!!!
for me back then i too chose the kona, liked the look too , and certainly the geometry got me hooked, it got me into steel first, and then onto my rocky mountain decade.....via bontrager, and indy fab etc, as years progressed....!!!!! never tried a fat though you seem pretty hooked.....any good...?
Back then i was riding an old Cannondale, then moved onto a Saracen in around '90. I couldnt afford anything like a Fat back then. Friends had Konas and Oranges and i always prefered tye ride of the Kona- it had more zing and the sloping top tube and straight fork made for a handsome looker.
If i had a time machine and a sack of money i would probably go for a Mountain Goat. Back then i always wanted a Pace RC100 but tye reality is they dont ride too hot- good race bike but too highly strung and stiff as an all rounder. I also liked the Goat after riding one at Boltby in 1990. I had one last year but unfortunately it was just a bit too small.
I love Fats but have to say that little Goat out rode all of them without breaking a sweat. Fantastic bikes and probably one of the nicest handling bikes of all time IMO.
its mad you mention cannondale from bitd, i used to ride with steve the guy that started the yogis(a club ride,) on a wed and a sunday, he had the first cannondale i ever saw (rollercams etc), and it impressed me, steve and i continually bantered which was better, the kona or the dale, we swopped bikes many times, to compare, and i still preferred it when i got back on the kona, im sure for me at the time a geometry thing..., and it just had a little more skip in its step.!!!!! the pace, well when that showed up on the scene way back then, it just stunned me, i could only describe it them as "industrial", and dare i use the word "hardcore" , i loved the story behind the bike , and was so impressed that a couple of english guys had a go, when all around them, were big business....and these guys, thought to themselves... we can do that but we will take a different approach....!!! and it did work for them too, i had one although not a 100, and im of the same opinion a great race bike, an hour or two hard riding i found enough for me, much more and i felt it quite rigid and less forgiving, but in a race it was a weapon!!!! with a sack of money, well that would be a different story, back them we would get mba magizine, and as a young lad, it seemed to have ads and reviews that were a month or so ahead of the english mags, several american bikes were on the list for me.....the mantis/yeti/mountain goat.!!!! sadly ive yet to own any of them, the whiskytown racer was always so cool, and im impressed with what jeff is trying to achieve with it now to be honest, i am intregued to see a new model....as well as the old!!! and as for fat that came for me in the early 90"s , i worked for a guy that stocked them in his shop, but at the time, i was really feeling the bontrager race lite, for me it was the bike that i did it all on, i used it to commute/hack/race, it was steel and functional, simple almost. The fat i hope is almost upon me....!!!!!