I believe i have made solid points over my thoughts on your design. One of which is that maybe one of the reasons it has not caught on is the inherent issues that lay within (repeat) riding a bicycle bolt-up-right off-road (yawn) does anyone else do it ? (i did asked earlier)
no (any takers?)
Cristian, you have indeed made many valuable and pertinent points and do not take any of my comments as being directed at you or even that I pigeon hole you as someone who is unwilling to consider ideas that contradict their own. Upright off-road bikes?
There is in fact a long tradition of upright off-road bikes due to this being the predominant riding position amongst everyday riders before metaled roads were commonplace. This ranges from the invention of the bicycle right through to BMX bikes and even early US mountain bikes who commonly featured raised handlebars. The tradition continues in the third world and in Germany were they have high handle bared trail bikes. Only the predominance of Tom Ritchey inspired mountainbikes in the early 80's make this style of bike appear as old fashioned and slow.
But, please do not declare your self a heretic, in such a manner as to assume that I suffer preconceived misconceptions. I find that patronising.
I did not intend to patronise any one. We all suffer from preconceived misconceptions and the only cure is an enquiring mind and a willingness to listen.
& who really is taking things seriously ? I have only been challenging peoples ideas, this is a public forum, is it not ? Very Happy there no need for " Evil or Very Mad " 's ! jees.
I welcome your questioning of ideas.
And whilst I find the detailed workings of the bicycle to be fascinating, it is not life and death, and I do things with a sense of humor and fun.
The "Twisted Evil" was intended to be directed at my self, not others.
nowledge is power, power breeds ego. I'd absolutely hate to say to have one, but I am passionate about keeping my advice & opinions as impartial as possible. They are FAAAAAAAAR more open than you think.
The only sensible way to convince people that the Cleland design is valid is to let them try the bikes for themselves. Explaining them in words can at best illustrate that the design is well thought through. It is futile to fully explain these bikes in words. They are really about the senses, the physical and emotional experience of riding them.
You would be selling these bikes to a market, but it would be a niche within a niche, but I do believe it exists Smile
I hope so!
Guys, like I said, I've only challenged your ideas, based on my experience (which is very likely something you have brushed under the carpet) that does not mean you should assume i know nothing, or what i know is not worth knowing..
Cristian, it is not that you and others know nothing or what you know is not worth knowing. It is simply that the Cleland is an alternative solution to the problem of cycling off-road. And as such it is bound to challenge preconceived notions and so give the impression that other designs are in some way wrong. This is not so. As there are often several equally valid design solutions to any given problem.