Dr S wrote:
Not at all. And well done for missing the point, and for chopping up two seperate posts made at different times to try and have another dig.
In the context of this thread and the threads over the last few days, I'm refering to the plundering of our heritage- firstly the Chancer, and what at the time of the post appeared to be the Cleland which in case you don't remember is a 30+ year old design= Retro. I'm not alone in thinking this bike would appeal to older riders- Lord Brant said as much in his sermon, and I'm not the only poster in this thread that thinks so either. I can't see this bike appealing to yoofs hanging around the local jump spot with 180mm forks and baggy pants, do you?
Until Mike posted, as far as anyone knew, this was another attempt by a marketing guy to cash in on someone elses legacy. Hence my latter post- a confirmation of Mikes news and a softening of my view..
Finally, I care about quality because such a fine bike deserves to be built well and not lashed up, unlike Mr Richards past efforts.
I didn't miss the point. I didn't chop anything up either - your 2 quotes were still valid independently and were responded to as such.
I know exactly what you're talking about, but I still can't understand why it (so called "plundering heritage") and him (Brant) bother you so much. We'll have to agree to differ.
Dr S wrote:
If Geoff is finally going to get his designs to the masses then, yes, cool, go for it. He is the original designer and has spent much of his life trying to get it accepted. He has a right to cash in, its his bike. He is not just plundering someone elses design. So what is your point exactly? Again, if the design is kept pure and a reasonable job is done of making it then yes, both should get credit. Its not my criteria, everyone wants to see good quality surely?
Ha ha! I think you know what my point is.
Even though this is Geoff's design you can't automatically assume that the result is going to meet your expectations and do justice to a classic bike. If it doesn't then I'm saying step up and say Geoff screwed up, but if it does then I'm saying step up and finally give Brant some credit - which you just said you would so fine.
Interesting that you only say "reasonable job" though, your viewpoint has softened quite a bit
In contrast to you, if the new Highpath becomes a low end, cheaply made Taiwanese effort that handles like a pig then it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I would just be happy to see that beautiful frame design on the streets again in any capacity