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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:20 pm 
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Ever paint ti frames? Raligh did it too some cheap ti frames a long time ago (not aircraft grade ti). I like painted frames. Or does paint have trouble sticking to it?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:32 pm 
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Raleigh only painted the frames because the cheap titanium they sourced was welded not drawn so had an messy looking weld running longways down the tubes.

I think they don't paint Ti frames because they don't have to. And I suppose that whilst it can't be much, the cost of painting the frames would make an expensive item even more expensive?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:32 pm 
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tintin40 wrote:
Ever paint ti frames? Raligh did it too some cheap ti frames a long time ago (not aircraft grade ti). I like painted frames. Or does paint have trouble sticking to it?


there were and are painted high-end Ti frames. it's not a matter of the paint sticking or not but more a matter of that it does not make sense to paint Ti... Raleigh also did it with expensive Ti frames in the mid 90s. Serotta comes to mind and Spectrum too.

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FAT chance offered it as a $200 custom option. nevil did it too, but I've heard that was to camoflage a multiturd of sins...

a friend in uni paint stripped his cheap raleigh ti, found a massive ugly seam down the tubes, so painted it back up again :)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:02 pm 
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I thought GT's were nickel plated, but could be wrong, there is certainly a consistant finish across the welds


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:41 pm 
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I don't see the point in painting them personally. Its part of the attraction that they don't show battlemarks as much as a painted frame.
Seven do painted finishes if you want. Heres their 10th anni sola
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:38 pm 
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Raleigh only painted the frames because the cheap titanium they sourced was welded


This was a common rumour at the time but it wasn't true. Raleigh's Titanium frames were cheaper because they were bonded - the brazing process with Titanium is very, very expensive whereas the material itself is one of the most abundant metals to be found in the Earth.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:00 pm 
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terryhfs wrote:
the material itself is one of the most abundant metals to be found in the Earth.


But the process of extraction is also extremely expensive.
And lends itself to alluring alliteration.


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But the process of extraction is also extremely expensive.
And lends itself to alluring alliteration.[/quote]

plus is it not a nightmare to work with?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:22 pm 
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One major factor NOT to paint a Ti frame is weight !!!! Believe it or not, paint is quite heavy so why paint something which is inheritantly light, then add weight !!! Makes perfect sense to me :D :D :D


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