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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:28 pm 
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This thread deserves to be archived as it is Retrobike gold.


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Location: In the foothills of the foothills of The Cairngorm Massif :D
Is that a sloping top tube I see before me? :wink:

Very well done Somerled, pity about the shinty result tho' :cry:


8) 8) 8)


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Amazing.


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That's a terrific restoration!

Do remember to get in touch if you're going to bring it down to the borders.

Well done!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:19 pm 
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GeoffApps wrote:
That's a terrific restoration!

Do remember to get in touch if you're going to bring it down to the borders.

Well done!


Praise indeed! 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:40 pm 
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somerled wrote:
Jumping on and riding away I was immediately struck by the riding position. It is high and upright, but very comfortable. The bike is short too and handles beautifully.

The brakes are simply amazing, plenty of initial bite which sheds speed very quickly, but in a very controlled way. They certainly give you a lot of confidence. The Yamaha levers are perfect, not too long, not too short and they give plenty of feedback...

...The Nokia SL-35 tyres running 15 - yes 15 psi, are uncannily quiet and absorb all the lumps and bumps that you usually feel in places you don't want to.

The handling is very predictable and despite the apparent high centre of gravity it's a solid platform, especially when you are up on the pedals. Geoff Apps and David Wrath-Sharman sure do know their design onions. Highpath is a strange beast to ride, the thing feels alive and eager - it has something, some weird quality or synergy that creates an almost perfect symbiosis between man and metal. (sorry girls!)


It,s a shame that people who haven't ridden on this style of bike before won't be able to fully relate to your description of what the riding experience is like. These bikes do, as you say, have something. It's almost indescribable but when riding out of the saddle in particular, they come alive. I don't think that even Geoff can explain why, but he certainly knows the recipe needed to make these bikes more than the sum of the parts they are made from. That's why in 1984 I switched from riding mountain bikes to riding Clelands. It's why despite all the technological advances in mountain bike design, I still ride them today. Even after all the years, whenever I ride, the magic is still there. It's why it's important to get them back into production. They're not just another shade of mountain bike, they are truly alternative.

Congratulations on the restoration. A great job, lovingly done! It's a bit more road oriented than my Highpath, but as long as you use some free-rolling tyres, they are also great fun on the road.

One practical point is that the rear mudguard is a little too short to keep your back dry. These duck-tail style flaps from SKS should sort the problem.

http://www.petracycles.co.uk/spoiler-wi ... 28998.html


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How important do you think the wheel size and Nokia tyres are to the ride?

I notice that Geoff has used 26"/559, 650B/584mm and 29er/622mm over the years.

Clearly, when the Range Rider etc were originally built, there was little or no choice of fat tyre, and the 650B Nokia filled the void.
With the larger choice of 559 and 622 tyres aroung these days, should we still encourage Kenda, Pacenti, Velocity etc and the US 650B revival? It doesn't seem to have got rolling enough yet not to be more than a woolly romaticict revival in the US, but might be useful to the Cleland/Highpath project.:evil:

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/p ... ires-11794
http://www.freewebs.com/650b/
http://www.650bpalace.blogspot.com/
http://650b.com/
http://twentynineinches.com/cats/rogue-wheels/650b/

It would be sweet if 650B returned as a popular mountainbike size, after that original Kelly/Fisher enquiry was unearthed :)


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Hello Danson ~

559 is the one size I have never used (as far as I can remember).
See the http://www.clelandcycles.wordpress.com website, under the 'Evolution' tab.

Aventuras ~ all 650B (plus one 700C prototype)
Dingbat ~ 550B rear with 600B front
AventuraII and AventuraTT ~ 700C
Prototype currently in construction ~ 700B (this will be for 31" wheels)

The 650B is a nice size, but really doesn't offer very much over 650D and 700C.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:23 pm 
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Hello Danson ~

559 is the one size I have never used (as far as I can remember).
See the http://www.clelandcycles.wordpress.com website, under the 'Evolution' tab.

Aventuras ~ all 650B (plus one 700C prototype)
Dingbat ~ 550B rear with 600B front
AventuraII and AventuraTT ~ 700C
Prototype currently in construction ~ 700B (this will be for 31" wheels)

The 650B is a nice size, but really doesn't offer very much over 650D and 700C.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:59 pm 
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Now for sale on RetroBike.

See Highpath for sale for full details of this peach of a bike. 8)


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