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Ride Forever
Plagarized from the Bridgestone Bicycles catalogue 1994
(Grant Petersen of Bridgestone now owns and runs Rivendell Bicycles)
1/ Ride when you like
Don't ride out of guilt over last night's meal. Don't be a slave to your bike, or else you'll resent it, and feel guilty whenever you think about it or look at it. Soon you'll be avoiding it altogether. If all your rides are like a swimmer's workout, you'll burn out on bikes as fast as swimmers burn out on laps. Ride when you want to ride.
2/ Go slowly
Don't push yourself too hard, physically or mentally. Don't ride with racers. Learn to relax on your bike. Of course your bike can be a tremendous tool to build cardiovascular fitness, but why let that get in the way? Unless you race, you can rely on something else, like running, to get fit and lose weight.
3/ Go short
A ten minute ride is always worth it, even though it won't elevate your heart rate to your "target training level" and keep it there for twelve minutes. (Or is it supposed to be eleven? Or fourteen?)
4/ Don't keep track
If you never use an on-board computer or a heart rate monitor, you can ride with us anytime. Avoid "logs." Forget the graphs and the home computer programs. Keep your bicycle free of extraneous wires and LEDS. You don't need them.
5/ Own more than one bike
This is not a commercial message! Runners have learned that nothing improves a run as much as a new pair of shoes, or shorts, or socks, or something. Bikes, unfortunately, cost a lot more, but the effect is the same. Make your bicycles so different that your experience on one is unlike the other – a mountain bike and a road bike, a multispeed and a single speed, or a clunker, or a recumbent. For some people even different handlebars are enough of a change. It's worth a try.
6/ Learn how to fix your bike
Learn to fix a flat. Learn how to install a wheel. Learn how to adjust derailleurs. It's all easy, and you'll never feel at ease on a bike if you are at its mercy. Being able to fix your bike will give you enormous confidence and satisfaction, not to mention self-sufficiency.
7/ Don't chase technology
You will never catch it, and if you pursue it year after year it will break you wallet in half. Some wonderful things have happened to bicycles in the last few years, but so have a lot of dumb things. You don't need a fancy machine with the latest equipment to enjoy something that is so joyous and simple. A simple, reliable bike will do.


i thought this was a usefull insert,,,,lol,,,,,,especially if the chancellor isnt playing ball............ :D


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just spoke to my mate turbo about his cinder cone and wether he would sell it.......and his answer was no sadly.....he basically said, he has thought about selling sum parts /breaking it, to make a change, but not the frame as he knows lightening dosent strike twice, and he wouldnt find another in as good condition, i did ask him very politely what he gave for the bike and he said he bought it as a frame and fork, and give £145 for it (it is almost shop floor condition), time he built it, xt shifters £40, timbuk 2s £80, new saddle, cables chain etc, as well as a few trick bits too, he rekons it owes him £600, finished....handbuilt snowflakes the full monty. and aside from the wheels he did the work himself, and it took him months to find the correct parts.

its an expensive way of doing it, id agree, but it looks and runs shop floor new to be honest....and looks at least a grands worth.

i rekon keep checking ebay for a complete bike, if another cums up at under £150 again rip there arms off.....ill keep a look out for you too..defo... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


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Can't blame the lad. Ah well.

Sounds a beaut tho...

I'm fully scouring on like an hourly basis these days... but do fire any links over of anything that might be of interest...

cheers ! :D


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Dave "VERY FAST" Hemmings, riding a very cool, well prepared, :mrgreen: Fat Chance, with a very cool snowflake front wheel.......... :mrgreen:


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Can't blame the lad. Ah well.

Sounds a beaut tho...

I'm fully scouring on like an hourly basis these days... but do fire any links over of anything that might be of interest...

cheers ! :D


will do no probs....i like a challenge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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does any one have a pic of carl sturgeon racing, both him and hemmings were always in front of me back in the day.........loll, would be good to see..... :twisted:

and the boys at brixton cycles at the malverns too, in the bontrager race kit........awesum :?:


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just spoke to my mate turbo about his cinder cone and wether he would sell it.......and his answer was no sadly.....he basically said, he has thought about selling sum parts /breaking it, to make a change, but not the frame as he knows lightening dosent strike twice, and he wouldnt find another in as good condition, i did ask him very politely what he gave for the bike and he said he bought it as a frame and fork, and give £145 for it (it is almost shop floor condition), time he built it, xt shifters £40, timbuk 2s £80, new flyte saddle, cables chain etc, as well as a few trick bits too (syncros, even a ringle bubba hub.......very cool, salsa flip offs,etc all a sky blue dream|) he rekons it owes him £600, finished....handbuilt snowflakes the full monty. and aside from the wheels he did the work himself, and it took him months to find the correct parts.

its an expensive way of doing it ( and i think he bought two bikes to break for parts and sold the skeleton remains on ebay to do it cost effectively), id agree, but it looks and runs shop floor new to be honest....and looks at least a grands worth.

i rekon keep checking ebay for a complete bike, if another cums up at under £150 again rip there arms off.....ill keep a look out for you too..defo... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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also the canadian imoprter is still today called the tbg, but after finding out that the marin frames of the same era were made by the taiwanese bicycle group, it does kinda beg the question did this company also weld the early frames before paul brodie did his brazing too them....someone in taiwan made them, it seems like a very big coincidence to me......and i long to find this out

Taiwan Bicycle Group doesn't make anything directly. It acts as an agent for loads of Taiwanese factories, so if you want something making you can ask TBG and they'll get quotes and deal with everything. Taiwan BG doesn't, as far as I know, have anything to do with The BG, any more than either of them are related to American Bicycle Group, or Cycling Sports Group or various other similarly-named outfits :)[/quote

i must admit i after researching this myself, have found the tbg today, and the website, it does today look like a distibutor for a multitude of taiwanese manufacturers, obviously the book i saw (which was as thick as a bible, and i mean huge), had a large frame section, i must admit there was a big section showing all the frame variations for the early 90s marin range of bikes , including the teflon paint finish and even the brand names, which did surprise me, i have even manged to source other oem manufacturers for scott and even.......wait for it....litespeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so given the early murray tie up with marin, and the fact that tbg,supplied a book showing marin frames for other manufacturer/suppliers and the like, to buy/be guided by, for design/manufacture/supply?......its now looking likely that there may have been an involvement.....by the tbg....and what was to become the later kona brand, even if only a broker so to speak, for the kona boys......?????????? especially as there frames were stamped with a letter T , what we need is to see a book from that era, cause even there company logos were similar......this has vex"ed me for 20 years, and after seeing current non stickered frames today online on these taiwanese frame manufacturers websites, that are identical in every way to my own alloy/ carbon litespeed, and current model scott mountain bike hardtail frames, i think after racing/ shop owning /manufacturing/and importing, its time i went to the next taipei bicycle trade show. any one wanna go on a jolly boys outing...?????????????/ :D :D :D :D


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joe murray.........in the uk......riding his explosif....... :mrgreen:


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