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 Post subject: Is this a Ritchey?
PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:37 am 
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This bike is offered as a Ritchey frame, but I have my doubts. It has Ritchey dropouts and the serial numer is: YM 951 20273. Does that lead to a certain brand or type of bike? Cheers :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 9:22 am 
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Doesn't look like one

Many American Eagles had Ritchey drop outs ...and about 1001 other frames. My Serotta has them too. I can tell it is also no Serotta :wink:

It happens regularly I see brand X advertised as Ritchey. Even when you tell them it isn't, some sellers still stick to it is one :roll:


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MOst proper ritcheys have seatstays that join the seattube to form a seatpost clamp rather than having a seperate collar which is the quickest and dirtiest way of telling this isn't a ritchey made frame. That said it could be made of ritchey designed tubing and drop outs. Loads of british bike shops had frames made of this, but the main producer/brand seemed to be Fuji IIRC


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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:42 pm 
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I agree with Pete on the seat clamp. Ritcheys use down tuble cable routing as well. Merlin did some frames with Ritchey dropouts, it looks similar to one of them


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No chance it's a Ritchey. Especially with that serial number.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:50 pm 
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pete_mcc wrote:
MOst proper ritcheys have seatstays that join the seattube to form a seatpost clamp rather than having a seperate collar which is the quickest and dirtiest way of telling this isn't a ritchey made frame. That said it could be made of ritchey designed tubing and drop outs. Loads of british bike shops had frames made of this, but the main producer/brand seemed to be Fuji IIRC


How many other producers made seatstays/seatclamp in this way? Or was it just Ritchey?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:50 pm 
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Nope, Rocky Mountain made it like that too.


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my old cinelli did as well, and a raleigh of mine. I think loads of older established road companies used it - think it was called a 'fast-back' seatstay


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My Dave Yates has the seatclamp built into the stays too, has Ritchey dropouts as well :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:25 am 
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stu wrote:
My Dave Yates has the seatclamp built into the stays too, has Ritchey dropouts as well :D

Stu


So the only way to recognise a genuine Ritchey would be from the frame number?


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