Bleeding Magura hydraulic HS11 brakes
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TBH, all the maguras I've had have responded perfectly to the following, but I've never done a tandem...
Get a LARGE syringe - 50ml should do it for a tandem (I normally use a 20ml). You'll need tubing and adapters for it to screw into the rear caliper.
Remove bleed screws at the lever and caliper. Fill the syringe with LHM (No air bubbles at all)and screw it into the caliper.
Have a helper hold the lever in a towel or rag, bleed port up, and blast most of the 50ml through the system - push it through HARD.
When almost done, and still pushing LHM through, flick the lever a few times.
With the last few ml being pushed in, refit the lever screw. Then remove syringe and fit caliper screw.
All the waste fluid is in the towel/rag. It's a messy way of doing it, but has worked 100% for me
Get a LARGE syringe - 50ml should do it for a tandem (I normally use a 20ml). You'll need tubing and adapters for it to screw into the rear caliper.
Remove bleed screws at the lever and caliper. Fill the syringe with LHM (No air bubbles at all)and screw it into the caliper.
Have a helper hold the lever in a towel or rag, bleed port up, and blast most of the 50ml through the system - push it through HARD.
When almost done, and still pushing LHM through, flick the lever a few times.
With the last few ml being pushed in, refit the lever screw. Then remove syringe and fit caliper screw.
All the waste fluid is in the towel/rag. It's a messy way of doing it, but has worked 100% for me
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What he said ^^^
Forget buying Magura’s Royal Blood (might be a funky colour but that’s about it) LMH does exactly the same
Bubbles are your enemy so you’ll need to flush them out and that does/can make a mess but done properly I doubt you’ll need to do it again for many years to come. There are kits on eBay with the kit to aid refilling the system
I’ve done 11,22’s and 33’s and they are all the same process, as has been pointed out the only additional challenge you have is the extra length of hose between the lever and the pistons
If you have the oil / syringe/ tubes all you’ll need are these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Magura-Bleed ... Sw1r5bXPmB
Forget buying Magura’s Royal Blood (might be a funky colour but that’s about it) LMH does exactly the same
Bubbles are your enemy so you’ll need to flush them out and that does/can make a mess but done properly I doubt you’ll need to do it again for many years to come. There are kits on eBay with the kit to aid refilling the system
I’ve done 11,22’s and 33’s and they are all the same process, as has been pointed out the only additional challenge you have is the extra length of hose between the lever and the pistons
If you have the oil / syringe/ tubes all you’ll need are these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Magura-Bleed ... Sw1r5bXPmB
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Retro Spud":11n8q42q said:
^^^ That's all I've ever used.
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Whilst RS & MTS are feeling responsive, can I ask if you’ve got any recommendations with regards to cleaning/flushing out the lines?
Or would it be simpler/cheaper to buy new tubes?
Or would it be simpler/cheaper to buy new tubes?
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I've never bought magura hose, only ever used old stuff (The new stuff available now is different - softer).
Big syringe and plenty of LHM. I reckon there's lass than 5 ml in a set of maguras. you'll see it running clear very quickly.
Big syringe and plenty of LHM. I reckon there's lass than 5 ml in a set of maguras. you'll see it running clear very quickly.
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This is me probably over thinking things but I always have the lever (filling end) lower than the oil exit end to have gravity aid bubble travel
Usually means having the bars off unless doing just the back in which case lift the back wheel higher than the bars, How much difference it makes is anyone’s guess - it’s more a case of patience and only stopping when there are no bubbles coming out since there is no load on the fluid at this point I find it hard to tell if there’s any sponginess (due to trapped air being compressed) at the lever so don’t skimp on the fluid going through.
Just a case of common sense, bit of time and a mini physics experiment with hydraulics - something even the Greeks and Romans played with.
Oh and wear old clothes - the old oil is always dirty and generally stinks plus it soaks into everything.
Usually means having the bars off unless doing just the back in which case lift the back wheel higher than the bars, How much difference it makes is anyone’s guess - it’s more a case of patience and only stopping when there are no bubbles coming out since there is no load on the fluid at this point I find it hard to tell if there’s any sponginess (due to trapped air being compressed) at the lever so don’t skimp on the fluid going through.
Just a case of common sense, bit of time and a mini physics experiment with hydraulics - something even the Greeks and Romans played with.
Oh and wear old clothes - the old oil is always dirty and generally stinks plus it soaks into everything.
I've done it on a tandem. Frankly the easiest way is to take it off the bike, tape the top to the top of a door. I fit an extra hose at the top from the lever port running into an old ketchup bottle.
Pump it in from the bottom, collecting in the bottle at the top. Then do the straddle pipe.
Alternatively, raise the front of the bike by a metre or so. The critical thing is to get gravity working with you along that long top tube line.
Pump it in from the bottom, collecting in the bottle at the top. Then do the straddle pipe.
Alternatively, raise the front of the bike by a metre or so. The critical thing is to get gravity working with you along that long top tube line.
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Retro Spud, fill from the caliper for the 'bubbles rise' reason you mention above, if you replace the bleed screw in the lever before removing the caliper syringe then capillary action stops it all leaking back out of the caliper, if once filled it's still spongey, connect a syringe to the lever with a bit of fluid in it, pulling the lever should push any remaining bubbles into the syringe. I've bled a lot of Maguras over the years, it's more or less mess free save a couple of drips, never had to remove one from a bike to bleed it.
Retro Spud, fill from the caliper for the 'bubbles rise' reason you mention above, if you replace the bleed screw in the lever before removing the caliper syringe then capillary action stops it all leaking back out of the caliper, if once filled it's still spongey, connect a syringe to the lever with a bit of fluid in it, pulling the lever should push any remaining bubbles into the syringe. I've bled a lot of Maguras over the years, it's more or less mess free save a couple of drips, never had to remove one from a bike to bleed it.
