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 Post subject: Waterside decals
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:47 am 
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Anbody made up waterslide decals for front and rear mechs ? wondering if its possible or… worth the effort :(

Im wondering with a couple of coats of lacquer if it’d be durable ?

Anybodu done it ? pics ?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:02 am 
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This chap did some on magura hs33's

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=385879


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:35 am 
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kalex wrote:
This chap did some on magura hs33's

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=385879

Yeah seen that .. looks great :wink:
Just wondered if any one done mechs specific.


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 Post subject: Re: Waterside decals
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:19 pm 
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Yep used them.
I recon only use the cheap chinese paper from ebay, the expensive stuff I tried was rubbish. I tried three or four of the papers recomended among modelers as the best to use!

Use microsol/microset or decalfix. The first lot of waterslides I put on with just water, some of them fell off when touched!
use one of the products and they are well stuck on and very flat.
don't bother with an inkjet printer, they fade away.
Not done mechs but put them on frames, stems, bars and forks.
I didn't print images though, I did the artwork so it was all nice crisp prints.


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 Post subject: Re: Waterside decals
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:07 pm 
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integerspin wrote:
Yep used them.
I recon only use the cheap chinese paper from ebay, the expensive stuff I tried was rubbish. I tried three or four of the papers recomended among modelers as the best to use!

Use microsol/microset or decalfix. The first lot of waterslides I put on with just water, some of them fell off when touched!
use one of the products and they are well stuck on and very flat.
don't bother with an inkjet printer, they fade away.
Not done mechs but put them on frames, stems, bars and forks.
I didn't print images though, I did the artwork so it was all nice crisp prints.

Excellent info there!
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 Post subject: Re: Waterside decals
PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:56 pm 
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integerspin wrote:
Yep used them.
I recon only use the cheap chinese paper from ebay, the expensive stuff I tried was rubbish. I tried three or four of the papers recomended among modelers as the best to use!

Use microsol/microset or decalfix. The first lot of waterslides I put on with just water, some of them fell off when touched!
use one of the products and they are well stuck on and very flat.
don't bother with an inkjet printer, they fade away.
Not done mechs but put them on frames, stems, bars and forks.
I didn't print images though, I did the artwork so it was all nice crisp prints.


nice one :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Waterside decals
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:49 am 
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Good info there, one additional question though @ integerspin: You said not to bother with inkjet, you mean decal paper for inkjet printers? The alternative being paper for laser/copier?


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 Post subject: Re: Waterside decals
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:27 pm 
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I meant not to bother with inkjet printers. Unless someone has had success with them that is. I first heard of this waterslide paper when someone I know made copies of old yank speed shop stickers. He made some, stuck them on a car and they faded. So he spent a tidy sum on some archival ink. He said the prints were guaranteed not to fade for 100 years. A few months in the sun and the waterslides had started to fade;-)

I have no idea why he didn't buy a laser. I didn't have a colour printer, so I bought a ten quid laserjet1600 from the local paper to print them. As a test I left some paint coupons with waterslides on them where they get sun whenever it's sunny, after four years I can't see any fading.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:23 pm 
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OK that´s what I figured. Nah, no success with inkjet regarding UV stability. Even with premium photo papers, expensive special ink etc. I just did not know there were waterslide decals for laser. As with all home print solutions the only problem is that if the waterslide is transparent, you have poor coverage on light colors and obviously no white color.


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 Post subject: Re: Waterside decals
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:42 pm 
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I painted a lot of the decals and used waterslides for fine detail.
I bought a vinyl cutter to cut masks and I bought an ALPS printer.
The alps printer prints white, they seem to be used mainly by people into making
models for decals. But on the yahoo alps printer group the most common thing seemed
to be "I can't get the white to stick" so I flogged it. I will dig out a few examples.
This is a headstock logo, I painted it all except the black lines and the
blue flowers/dots. It hasn't been cleared over in this photo.

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