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 Post subject: Is this Ritchey NiTi?
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:15 pm 
Dirt Disciple

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Hi, I already purchased this frame, but would like to hear opinion from someone more experienced with Ritchey frames. Seller says it is NiTi and it is repainted black and was built with m900 derailleurs raceface turbine lp, syncros ti post, magura race line...
So, is this a NiTi or Ritchey at all?
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:21 pm 
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Looks legit, identical to P20 in key areas.
Sad that it was painted though. Any way to strip it?


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:26 pm 
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Thanks for quick reply.
If i understood, you think it's P20 and not NiTi?
Can't say about stripping paint, I don't have a frame in my hands yet.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:26 pm 
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why on earth would anybody repaint a P20 to mat black, it's beyond me.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:54 pm 
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The cable guiding is different from a 1999 or 2000- 2001 niti or P20. Take a photo of the serial number and perhaps someone can help you to identifiy the model.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 1:57 pm 
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Compared to the photos here: http://www.vintagemtbworkshop.com/2001- ... -niti.html
It's all wrong with the extra collar round the top of the seat tube. That kind of detail I associate with the late 80s to early 90s.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:09 pm 
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Seems quite similar to my P20 and I would assmume the Niti has elements of the same.

How is the collar not there on the P20?
How are the cable guides different? (ed: true, no bottom tube cabling, all top tube)

Image (road bike but the same on Toyo 1998 P20s and Plexus)
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:13 pm 
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All top tube cabling could indicate a later model (1999+) rather than earlier.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:16 pm 
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no collar :o

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:19 pm 
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Mind though, Toyo did make frames which were sold under other brands, with elements similar to the Ritcheys.


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