What is high end for you?

jimo746":221meweb said:

longun":221meweb said:

Something that your worried will break when you ride it haha

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Like a Pace?

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Yup haha

ultrazenith":5vbj22j7 said:

To be top end, you need to be able to ride it like you don't care if i breaks, because you know whatever happens, you can get it repaired and repainted. If you thnk there's a good chance that what you ride might break under normal riding, then I'd argue it's not really top end.

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Bang on ! Never worried about a bike breaking bitd. My FAT was slammed hard into the flat ground from a 6-10ft high drop off at least 20 times a week for years around the heath, with no ill effects. Still straight as a die now.

Anything raced by the Team.
Custom frames.
The top 2 models in any serious bike makers Catalogue.

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I thought Klein's were high end until I owned one. Lovely to look at, but a severe ride.

Since then it's what I couldn't afford when I was young. Had an rts-2 bitd, that was pretty high end in 93, but always wanted better, and now own a team RTS that won't ever leave the stable.

Other than that, for me it is stuff that tops the charts in manufacturers ranges, but actually works/lasts. I'd exclude m900 from that as I thought the shifting was poooooooo, despite the good looks.

Also, what's the point in owning something boutique if you are scared it will break/crack if you look at it wrong? It may have cost a lot, but......

Having had many a boutique part in my possession, I'd rather hit the trails with trusty m952 than pro shift or Paul's. Yes, they may look lovely, but bang for buck? Performance? Longevity?

I'm a sucker for ti and carbon, though none of the cheap far east nock offs.

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Quick aside. A bike can be too stiff. I sold my Klein and Serotta T Max because they were just too harsh to ride all day. There was an interesting article on Pinkbike recently where they mentioned a bit of frame flexibility can make you ride faster, as well as in greater comfort. Its always fascinated me how certain bikes have this mystical quality.

Anything sold with XT or XTR on it!

Like most, probably a manufactures top of the range, but for me it needs to be something well made, with thought, not just in function but form too.

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My Saracen Race Elite!!, I was so sad when it finally snapped, I just had to replace it with another!

Stick Legs":21znnq79 said:

Anything raced by the Team.
Custom frames.
The top 2 models in any serious bike makers Catalogue.

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Yep, pretty much this.

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